is The Shaper a fair fight? discussion

the beam doesn't 1shot you and he doesn't shoot it instantly

the slam is the only thing that 1shots you and you do have a bit of time to dodge it

the fight is fine, there should be something hard ffs you want to facetank everything?
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ntherblast написал:
Gamers these days think they should be able to access every aspect of a game.


Uh...Why shouldn't we? I've been beating games 100% for the past 20+ years, dude. And I've chased down raid bosses and torn up endgame dungeons in many an MMO. These things were always accessible and beatable within reason. Your argument makes no goddamn sense.
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johnKeys написал:
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guggelhupf написал:


last thing, was it my video u saw :D ?


yes.

and looking at it again I take back what I said about the laser: it DOES NOT have sufficient telegraph


Good thing YOU tested it for us :D
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"Get into my bubble of safety Exile!"
- Dies to lazor anyways.

Whoever made this fight, go fuck yourself.

Also, I wish GGG would stop making content that only 0.005% of their player base will experience, it's a stupid concept and unfair for the rest of the community.
Just think about it, just the journey alone is stupid long, and then you meet that shit (who most likely will get nerfed)..
He's immune to most status ailments, ohgreat.. Atziri all over again, where we weren't allowed to do ignite builds because reasons. I get you can't freeze, but Shock/Ignite..?

I want an actual challenge, not nofunallowed designs and retarded grindfest to even enter the bloody fight. Don't get me going on the rewards either.. 1% chance to get something worth selling, everything else will sell for 1-5 Chaos, just like Atziri's flask..

Overall? I hate how GGG handles endgame grinds, it's just terrible. To fight Atziri you'll use hours to get enough Sac parts, and then you'll need luck to get Midnights, because some FUCKTARD thought it'd be a "NEAT" idea to give them separate droprates, instead of just 25% each..
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Derpey написал:
"Get into my bubble of safety Exile!"
- Dies to lazor anyways.

Whoever made this fight, go fuck yourself.

Also, I wish GGG would stop making content that only 0.005% of their player base will experience, it's a stupid concept and unfair for the rest of the community.
Just think about it, just the journey alone is stupid long, and then you meet that shit (who most likely will get nerfed)..
He's immune to most status ailments, ohgreat.. Atziri all over again, where we weren't allowed to do ignite builds because reasons. I get you can't freeze, but Shock/Ignite..?

I want an actual challenge, not nofunallowed designs and retarded grindfest to even enter the bloody fight. Don't get me going on the rewards either.. 1% chance to get something worth selling, everything else will sell for 1-5 Chaos, just like Atziri's flask..

Overall? I hate how GGG handles endgame grinds, it's just terrible. To fight Atziri you'll use hours to get enough Sac parts, and then you'll need luck to get Midnights, because some FUCKTARD thought it'd be a "NEAT" idea to give them separate droprates, instead of just 25% each..


dumbass he can be ignited

99.5% of the content is for everybody, don't you think there should be one or two fights that are a bit harder?

and everything he does can be avoided, with skill you can do it
you want
to just hold down left click and do the entire game with heavy strike?

IDIOT hard fights are good especially for the poor players cause that means the items will be worth a lot and you can farm them and get rich, otherwise the only way to get rich would be trading
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1235 написал:
hard fights are good especially for the poor players cause that means the items will be worth a lot and you can farm them and get rich, otherwise the only way to get rich would be trading


In theory. In practice poor players wont ever see the Shaper, because you need to have good gear + spend a ton on map progression.

Uber Lab is slightly better for "poor" players, but their actual domain is Dried Lake & Merci Lab at most.
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No. Blade Vortex is not a melee build. It is an OP SPELL build that has insane damage and insane hit rate.


i know that,my whole point was how people think about melee...

Then EQ is also OP,it scales with melee,has great AOE,kills boss pretty fast,yet everyone calls it range because its AOE...im just using some reverse logic.
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666lol666 написал:
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Kasapnica написал:
I honestly no longer understand what "melee" stands for in this game,i feel like every one has his definition,half of the player base is like "if it hits more than 1 target,its ranged",the other half is like"if the skill reads melee,its melee".

In reality it is far more simple - Does it suck? If yes it's melee if no it's ranged!


That would seem to be it,indeed...Every build that scales with melee damage,and can easily clear the game,is ranged,but when a spell build that needs you to HUG the enemy,is somehow ranged AGAIN,because you know...it also works.
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johnKeys написал:
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guggelhupf написал:


last thing, was it my video u saw :D ?


yes.

and looking at it again I take back what I said about the laser: it DOES NOT have sufficient telegraph.
you were dodging it simply by constantly running around, but Shaper's animation of casting it is a split-second, so if you were standing still and only moved when you saw it coming - you probably would not have dodged it in time.
also - unlike Vaal Oversoul switching to its fork arm - he has no "about to use laser" signs.

the teleport was the real kicker though.
every time you died to it, my reaction was "how the fk was he supposed to dodge that, aside from sheer luck?".
so fast. so un-telegraphed. so much bs.
I hate Malachai's version, but at least you still have time to move when you see him appear near you. Shaper already blows you up at that point.




Whats wrong with that as a tactic?

Maybe that's a way to avoid the teleport also.
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Raxik написал:
So Shaper is strong etc... how are Guardians? Any words on that? A little description on all four of them please?


Here is one of them: Guardian of the Minotaur
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