"Jew" as abbreviation for Jeweller's Orb
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Grab a snickers and get over it?
Last time i checked were 2016 already. Feel free to contact me for victim role-play though. Peace, -Boem- Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes
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" If you're referring to my post: I never knew I was getting offended. Presenting contrary ideas on a discussion board - probably something I should do less of, but nothing I ever called being offended. I think when people see a wall of text, particularly text that has bolded text for emphasis on important points , which is a style choice of mine that perhaps is ignorant of local culture, they assume that so much effort means someone who is offended, whatever that means. In truth: -I like getting philosophical. This often results in me spewing forth word after word after word regardless of whether I agree with an opinion. -I'm at the mall. I don't like shopping. There's no mobile game that I like on my phone. There's a complete lack of posts that interest me in Gameplay Help and Discussion (I burn through them way faster than new posters can come up with interesting questions). Most people call this: I'M BORED -------------- If you're talking about all other replies in this thread: honestly I find that unlikely because everyone else has had the same opinion as you as far as I can tell. But I think ScrotieMcB sticking up for his son is a totally valid "getting offended for someone else," because people tend to care deeply about their family. Shrugs. ------------- If you're talking about original poster: I would like to learn your stalking tactics as I was completely unable to tell whether original poster was a Jew or not. -------------- More philosophizing on the pros and cons of "getting offended for someone else:" If there were Jews who truly got offended, isn't it very likely they would quit the game and thus not post in the forums to begin with? Does presenting a counter-argument with snark attached count as getting offended? If a contrary idea is presented with the intent of opening minds, despite having the effect of getting "funny how..." comments, does that convey a feeling of being offended? Since "Funny how..." sounds just like a counter-argument with snark attached, does that mean that the offended has offended? (I.e., does this mean you've been offended by someone's offendedness?) Need game info? Check out the Wiki at: https://www.poewiki.net/ Contact support@grindinggear.com for account issues. Check out How to Report Bugs + Post Images at: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/18347 Последняя редакция: adghar#1824. Время: 8 окт. 2016 г., 17:32:31
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" I know the difference between passionate and getting offended. I do not however comprehend how somebody would be so empathetic that they want to debate if a term is offensive or wrong in some capacity if the group of people who it could be offensive towards don't give a crap. " For somebody who loves to be philosophical, you should realize that my annoyance at people getting offended on behalf of groups they do not belong to has absolutely nothing to do with Scrotie. Scrotie stands up for their son if somebody is being offensive to autistic people, good job. Somebody who gets offended for Jewish people because Jew refers to them in real life and jew is used as reference to currency here as a shorthand for that type of currency which has no association with Jewish people and we have yet to really see a single Jewish player or person who heard about this complain at all is a stretch for why it isn't right. " It is an assumption of most people that agree with the OP, the OP and the last time this thread popped up in my knowledge. I don't see anybody put "I am Jewish and this is offensive" so I find it fairly safe to assume that none of the defenders are Jewish themselves. I could be wrong but odds are so far to me that I am not. " In this day and age? Please. " Not offending me, just annoying. "It's all clearer now And I hear her now And I'm nearer to The Salvation Code" Последняя редакция: PleiadesBlackstar#6327. Время: 8 окт. 2016 г., 17:49:03
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" Do you know for sure there are no Jews who give a crap? If you believe Chris and follow his statements fairly regularly, you probably know by now that the average forum poster is really, really not representative of the majority of players. Like I mentioned in my original post, it's a demographic analysis for GGG to make. If they assess 1) to be 0 or near 0, they won't take original poster's suggestion. If they assess 1) to be significant, they'll consider the suggestion. One forum poster's experience is unlikely to represent 100% of the potential player base, though it is true they can get close (99%? 99.99%? Only GGG can have anywhere near a comprehensive view). In the mean time we have people in this thread being so flippant and dismissive of the issue that GGG support staff is scrubbing them. I know for a majority of vocal forum posters that GGG staff is supposed to be overly sensitive, but that's a point of evidence that they might find other perspectives significant. Me? I'm trying to share those perspectives that GGG doesn't want to be flippantly dismissed. The possibility that "moaners crying about 'Jew'" isn't necessarily the most constructive point in favour of making the game (and for those hopeless optimists out there, the world) a little bit better. Not to mention silence can quite easily mean the opposite of "everything's okay." Probably, blacks in the US did not find everything alright before Martin Luther King spoke out, and then suddenly decide to get offended. Just recently I saw a video of a half-black (looked black) woman who was fairly well off, but the cashier was holding up the line checking the doubtful accounts database for her card number. She was very uncomfortable but afraid to say anything because of the "angry black woman" stereotype. Then her sister jumps in (also half-black, but looks white) saying "What are you checking that for? You didn't check that white woman that checked out right before my sister!" Or something like that. " Trying to cover all my bases. Honestly, it's rare for people to target just me using a blanket statement. It's kind of unfamiliar. Also, forum ate half of my post so I'll try to repeat the missing part here I guess. I was not aware there was a previous thread, so that makes a little more sense than a blanket statement targeting just me. Need game info? Check out the Wiki at: https://www.poewiki.net/ Contact support@grindinggear.com for account issues. Check out How to Report Bugs + Post Images at: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/18347 Последняя редакция: adghar#1824. Время: 8 окт. 2016 г., 18:16:16
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There's a difference between something being an actual issue, and then looking for someone to make into an issue.
Since you can't actually trade 3 Jewish persons to another gorup, nor do any of the racial slurs/issues actually exists in PoE and there is an actual orb called "jeweler orb". It's basically a non-issue, at best you can ask people to shorten it to J-orb or something. |
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" There is a massive difference between how discrimination was in history and a short hand term used for a group of religious people, which is not even an offensive term (it is literally the noun of a person who practices Judaism, people who are anti-Semites simply use it to refer to the people they find detestable as well since it is the term they are called), and that same term being short hand for a type of currency in a video game. There is extremely little to get offended by in the second situation even as an actual Jew. There is nothing about a Jeweller's orb that is associated in any way to Jewish people, so tell me, how the hell can shortening it to jew in buyouts be offensive in any possible way? As Ragnarok says, this is a non-issue. If jeweller's orbs dropped exclusively in the crematorium, yeah, big fucking problem. If jeweller's orbs were eluded to as being made of pure gold or something, probably offensive as it would be a jab at Jewish stereotypes. Instead, we have a currency that is easily shortened to jew in a fictional universe where Judaism isn't a thing. The currency nor its shortened name use makes literally no jab at Jews. So where is the problem? Assholes using it as a joke or whatever? Yeah, mute the hell out of them, but that isn't a fault of the community in general and GGG using a shortened term that nobody appears nor should care about in any way. "It's all clearer now
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"I researched this. It's false, and its propagation has been motivated by racism. Jewel actually comes from the old French for "game" - presumably because jewels were used in a similar manner to marbles - while Jew comes from the Hebrew word we roughly translate as Judah. There's this thing called Google. Try it sometime. ---- Regarding offensive language, I mostly am of the George Carlin school of thought. I'm anti-euphemism - that is, I'm against using soft, generic words to describe an exceptionally difficult situation. However, I'm also against what I call "reverse euphemisms" - that is, using words for exceptionally difficult situations to describe soft, generic ones. As a case study for this, let's consider "dumb." Dumb originally referred to the permanent inability to talk. Being dumb didn't mean being stupid - and for those situations where one is stupefied into a temporary inability to talk, we had a separate, derivative word: dumbfounded (you found your inner dumbness). However, dumb started to gain usage as a "reverse euphemism" for stupid. Because the truly dumb didn't fight back (to be fair to them, they by definition cannot talk), over years of misuse in popular culture, the name for their condition stopped meaning their condition, and took on its new meaning. Now, if you call a mute person "dumb," you're being offensive; the reverse euphemists have won. So please, do not refer to things other than slowed processes as retarded, or anyone as a retard; retard is a verb, not a noun, and means to slow, as in "fire retardant clothing." Behavior which is merely socially backward at the moment is not autistic; autism is a permanent severe mental condition, present from early childhood, characterized by difficulty in forming relationships, communicating, and other abstract concepts. Things which you find lame are neither "gay" nor "dumb;" fuck you, Kurt Cobain. There's no problem with the words "retarded," "autistic," "gay" or "dumb." Not in my opinion, anyway... providing they're used properly. I do not want the word describing my son's immense struggle to be debased through popularized misusage, in the same way and for the same reasons that the late great Carlin was upset that those suffering from shell shock had their condition renamed to a phrase with the life sucked out of it. When Stephen Colbert was killed by HYDRA's Project Insight in 2014, the comedy world lost a hero. Since his life model decoy isn't up to the task, please do not mistake my performance as political discussion. I'm just doing what Steve would have wanted. Последняя редакция: ScrotieMcB#2697. Время: 8 окт. 2016 г., 20:09:23
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So if we're all cool with 'jew' being used in this way can I get my globe girls back?
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I recall a time when GGG were specifically asking people not to use that as an abbreviation so it seems kinda odd to me that this is the case.
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A friend of mine used to work for a world famous Austrian Chef. At one particular restaurant they would serve a sort of bagel pizza for happy hour. When one would come in the chef would yell "Throw another Jew in the oven!", Now that is an offensive use of the word.
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" GGG stated that ui changes come with big Act changes. Just because people want to parade around some conspiracy that they caved to SJW harassment doesn't make it true. Allow us to freely choose between ui layouts? Yes please. Doing it because you think feminazis held a gun to GGG's head? Meh... "It's all clearer now
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