How we can make divination cards farmable and don't hurm economy.

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Docbp87 написал:

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YourDeathHere написал:

So u lost all day and not guaratie to get that shav + spend time to buy that scriptorium which is making that farm not profitable but big loss time and currency, when u can go some Uber runs and get hunderts time more (exaturating a bit)? nice time-consuming theory. I don't think so.
I think it can be better.

Obviously saving up cash and just trading for the item you want will always be the better option, and that is probably intended. That option is not necessarily there for everyone.

Well trading will always be better no matter what you do, unless trading gets restricted. The thing here is that div cards let you incrementally earn a reward, but shav's is a super rare thing and as such the card is rare, they shouldn't make things easy, but they do make it easier.

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Docbp87 написал:

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YourDeathHere написал:

So u lost all day and not guaratie to get that shav + spend time to buy that scriptorium which is making that farm not profitable but big loss time and currency, when u can go some Uber runs and get hunderts time more (exaturating a bit)? nice time-consuming theory. I don't think so.
I think it can be better.

Obviously saving up cash and just trading for the item you want will always be the better option, and that is probably intended. That option is not necessarily there for everyone.

Ofcourse if u want to get bank u will flipp or farm as crazy, or if u already have bank u can farm endgame content, but if u want to enjoy farming divination cards as one of the ineresting things in game for particular item, or that gamble cards like: gambler, emperror's luck, aesthete, calling and such, make it drop more frequently so u can feel that u paid for effect u wanted, so u can compare it to endgame content farming, so u can tell that u not wasting ur time in a dumbster... I feel like it will be greate improvement many people will glad to see. I can, again, compare it in time-currency matter with endgame farm and from that comparison we get - waste of time. I can even compare it with unique items farm if u have like 150/500 or even millionaire build for 200/600 iiq iir and u will see a lot of unique, most of them is trash but u will got 10 ex a day minimum from that build on uniques drop, even if u can farm t15-16 which pretty hard with mf build, but can be achieved if planned well + paid a lot of currency for it and from that comparison we, again, get in result - waste of time

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j33bus написал:

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Docbp87 написал:

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YourDeathHere написал:

So u lost all day and not guaratie to get that shav + spend time to buy that scriptorium which is making that farm not profitable but big loss time and currency, when u can go some Uber runs and get hunderts time more (exaturating a bit)? nice time-consuming theory. I don't think so.
I think it can be better.

Obviously saving up cash and just trading for the item you want will always be the better option, and that is probably intended. That option is not necessarily there for everyone.

Well trading will always be better no matter what you do, unless trading gets restricted. The thing here is that div cards let you incrementally earn a reward, but shav's is a super rare thing and as such the card is rare, they shouldn't make things easy, but they do make it easier.

Why not make it easier if u paid for it to be easier? Simple question. If u just clear maps without mf gear ofcourse it's shouldn't be easy, but if opposite?

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YourDeathHere написал:

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j33bus написал:

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Docbp87 написал:

Obviously saving up cash and just trading for the item you want will always be the better option, and that is probably intended. That option is not necessarily there for everyone.

Well trading will always be better no matter what you do, unless trading gets restricted. The thing here is that div cards let you incrementally earn a reward, but shav's is a super rare thing and as such the card is rare, they shouldn't make things easy, but they do make it easier.

Why not make it easier if u paid for it to be easier? Simple question. If u just clear maps without mf gear ofcourse it's shouldn't be easy, but if opposite?

You can do that with iiq gear now, but how long do you think it should take to farm a shav's? hours? days?

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You can do that with iiq gear now, but how long do you think it should take to farm a shav's? hours? days?

I've already wrote the examples of me doing so with 4 party members so that connection between more items overall - more divination cards is SOO bad that i wrote that post and suggest new value @increased divination card chance@

Pls read the whole post before responding and forcing me to repeat what i've already wrote in post, ty.

Actually no, you have not said what you think the rate should be. Obviously 1 card every 10 runs is wayyy too frequent for something like The Offering, or The Last One Standing, etc. So again, how long should deterministically farming a Shavs take? How many maps?

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Docbp87 написал:

Actually no, you have not said what you think the rate should be. Obviously 1 card every 10 runs is wayyy too frequent for something like The Offering, or The Last One Standing, etc. So again, how long should deterministically farming a Shavs take? How many maps?

It's not frequent, it's even not good enought, cos 80 runs - 6+ hours to get shav for 4 ex? Not worth it, so i think 3 or so runs is worth it in time-currency matter, it's 24 runs for 4 ex seems better, but idk, need to test it and track time, that past why doing these runs, it's up to balance team do so. If u bought gear for like 200 exalteds u need to be sure u can do at least 10-20 ex a day that u can do on end game content at current state of game (again i mention this and i will till people stop saying "it's frequent", "it's good as it is" e.t.c.)

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YourDeathHere написал:

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Docbp87 написал:

Actually no, you have not said what you think the rate should be. Obviously 1 card every 10 runs is wayyy too frequent for something like The Offering, or The Last One Standing, etc. So again, how long should deterministically farming a Shavs take? How many maps?

It's not frequent, it's even not good enought, cos 80 runs - 6+ hours to get shav for 4 ex? Not worth it, so i think 3 or so runs is worth it in time-currency matter, it's 24 runs for 4 ex seems better, but idk, need to test it and track time, that past why doing these runs, it's up to balance team do so. If u bought gear for like 200 exalteds u need to be sure u can do at least 10-20 ex a day that u can do on end game content at current state of game (again i mention this and i will till people stop saying "it's frequent", "it's good as it is" e.t.c.)

You're saying you want 4 ex an hour? That's a little extreme, going full MF and good clear speed isn't nearly that high.

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j33bus написал:

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YourDeathHere написал:

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Docbp87 написал:

Actually no, you have not said what you think the rate should be. Obviously 1 card every 10 runs is wayyy too frequent for something like The Offering, or The Last One Standing, etc. So again, how long should deterministically farming a Shavs take? How many maps?

It's not frequent, it's even not good enought, cos 80 runs - 6+ hours to get shav for 4 ex? Not worth it, so i think 3 or so runs is worth it in time-currency matter, it's 24 runs for 4 ex seems better, but idk, need to test it and track time, that past why doing these runs, it's up to balance team do so. If u bought gear for like 200 exalteds u need to be sure u can do at least 10-20 ex a day that u can do on end game content at current state of game (again i mention this and i will till people stop saying "it's frequent", "it's good as it is" e.t.c.)

You're saying you want 4 ex an hour? That's a little extreme, going full MF and good clear speed isn't nearly that high.

U're compare guarantee profit with chance of obtaining GG rare or tier 1 unique drop, it's not right.
If u compare guarentee profits then compare it with Endgame content which i already did few times and which is right.

So shaper or uber atziri? Sure those have higher earning potential but also cost 1-2 ex a run, and are hard to run, farming for a calling, isn't risky at all. Lab running is also much higher risk and the reward isn't nearly that high either. Full on MF farming in maps also not nearly that high. What you're talking about is a nearly guaranteed chance to farm one of the best items in the game every hour.