How we can make divination cards farmable and don't hurm economy.

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I do think adding div cards and buffing t1 uniques by so much basically crashed all real value and progression in temp leagues.

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YourDeathHere написал:

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I do think adding div cards and buffing t1 uniques by so much basically crashed all real value and progression in temp leagues.

What u mean?
My gear that i suggest will not be for Temp Leagues because of cost, who farm cards in temp leagues anyway? People there is just having fun with game, breaking ladder and stuff. Where people do farm a lot is on standart league!

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goetzjam написал:

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YourDeathHere написал:

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I do think adding div cards and buffing t1 uniques by so much basically crashed all real value and progression in temp leagues.

What u mean?
My gear that i suggest will not be for Temp Leagues because of cost, who farm cards in temp leagues anyway? People there is just having fun with game, breaking ladder and stuff. Where people do farm a lot is on standart league!

Why farm for stuff in standard when you can simply buy it for cheaper and be done with it. GGG can't possibly make div cards more common or easier to get else it makes getting the item easier and we've seen what that does to a number of unique items, the effect is absolutely terrible.

Lets look at it like this. Again these numbers are made up for this scenario, not an accurate representation.

Lets say exalts are 60c:1ex

A shavs cost 12ex unlinked for 18ex 6 linked (non corrupted)

Lets say you add in ways to get a shavs from div cards, hell more then one way, why not. Then you either do or don't buff the drop rate of the item too, but lets say it doesn't get buffed.

Div cards are too rare, people complain so they increase them slightly.

Shavs drops down to 8ex unlinked and 12ex for 6 link.

Then people still complain, they change it again.

Shavs drops down to 4ex unlinked and 10ex for 6 link.


The price or value is determined by a lot of things, which we will somewhat ignore for this exercise.

So if shavs drops down to 4ex, which is 240c, the offering cards are 30c a piece, which actually in this case ends up being that 4ex price. What do you do? Do you farm a couple of the cards and buy the rest or do you keep farming it until you get the very last one you need. Chances are if you do the later you will find and make far more then the chaos cost it would take in order to have just bought the shavs, this is one of the issues with div cards and why in general I don't really like them.

Furthermore, you find a piece of an item, its far easier to just sell it then and there and buy them later if you want to go for it, then it is for you to sit on it and not do anything with it.

People always post screenshots after leagues end of finishing div card sets and all that, great more power to them, but me personally, I don't think I am ever going to "farm" on standard again or play it in a manner that is anything less then just fucking around.

What is bad about the situation I listed here is it is somewhat true to ESC, but compare that to standard, especially for unique items, chances are you are far better off just buying it and completing then you ever would be trying to farm a specific thing.

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Jgizle написал:

The divination cards were intended to bring deterministic farming to the game. That is hiw it was marketed. If you want a shavs you were supposed to be able to farm a specific area for div cards and exchange them for the item. Right now thats realistically impossible. You will out level the area by time you find just 1 or at most 2 divination cards for a high value unique. I have done over 300 runs for Varunastra divination cards and have yet to receive a single one. It is ridiculous. Imagine how many div cards there are in lower level zones. You would have to consistently die to maintain a high drop rate, and even then your chances are dismal. It is completely the opposite of hiw it was marketed to be.

Right now if you were to buy a set of divination cards for a unique you will be paying more than the ynique is actually worth, before even seeing the rolls, sockets, and links which adds more upfront cost. Its stupid really.

8c for a set of jack in the box for example when 99% of uniques are worth 2c or less. So dumb.

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cdchi1 написал:

Div cards are definitely underwhelming imo, both from a drop rate POV (for the rare ones) and what they give you.

Gambler card is kind of fun, though only ever got one rare card from trading in a set of those.

Got a Devoto's devotion from the nightmare bascinet set trade in yesterday which is cool since I don't trade and never had a DD drop. That's pretty much the only useful thing I ever got from Div cards.

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YourDeathHere написал:

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cdchi1 написал:

Div cards are definitely underwhelming imo, both from a drop rate POV (for the rare ones) and what they give you.

Gambler card is kind of fun, though only ever got one rare card from trading in a set of those.

Got a Devoto's devotion from the nightmare bascinet set trade in yesterday which is cool since I don't trade and never had a DD drop. That's pretty much the only useful thing I ever got from Div cards.

Can't agree about drop rates, it's ridiculous, just read some posts and first one by me in that thread and u'll see why.

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Jgizle написал:

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YourDeathHere написал:

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cdchi1 написал:

Div cards are definitely underwhelming imo, both from a drop rate POV (for the rare ones) and what they give you.

Gambler card is kind of fun, though only ever got one rare card from trading in a set of those.

Got a Devoto's devotion from the nightmare bascinet set trade in yesterday which is cool since I don't trade and never had a DD drop. That's pretty much the only useful thing I ever got from Div cards.

Can't agree about drop rates, it's ridiculous, just read some posts and first one by me in that thread and u'll see why.

You think div card drop rates are good?

Just for example. How long have div cards been in the game? How many The Formless Sea div cards are available on standard? 16 total. How many sellers? 13 total. Not a single player has more than 2. Months to get those they do have and each card is over 20 chaos each.

Thats just one example. The drop rates are complete trash.