That feel when the Chaos Recipe becomes a waste of time

I don't feel that the Chaos recipe is a waste of time.
But then I also collect two stash tabs of stone hammers while levelling, and also doing whetstone and armourer's scrap recipes.
And also decorating my hideouts when in temp leagues.

Also, I just don't enjoy continually chaining maps, I find I prefer to do a couple of maps, then do a master daily or check trade to see if anything I'm looking for is available or mess about with my hideout or stash or whatever.

That said, I do think using more than a single stash tab for the chaos recipe is excessive.

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Nephalim написал:
Chaos recipe and picking the smallest orbs and scrolls is sub optimal.

Well of course it is!
Also doing any build other than X, Y or Z is sub-optimal.
Playing this game with anything other than an nvidia graphics card is sub-optimal.

Being honest and helpful in chat is sub-optimal.

There's more to playing a game than just what's optimal.
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Последняя редакция: crystalwitch#6044. Время: 6 февр. 2017 г., 16:52:27


Found that and sold it for 13ex in under an hour so I'll never do the chaos recipe again
Последняя редакция: Kev265#5411. Время: 6 февр. 2017 г., 16:57:40
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crystalwitch написал:
I don't feel that the Chaos recipe is a waste of time.
But then I also collect two stash tabs of stone hammers while levelling, and also doing whetstone and armourer's scrap recipes.
And also decorating my hideouts when in temp leagues.

Also, I just don't enjoy continually chaining maps, I find I prefer to do a couple of maps, then do a master daily or check trade to see if anything I'm looking for is available or mess about with my hideout or stash or whatever.

That said, I do think using more than a single stash tab for the chaos recipe is excessive.

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Nephalim написал:
Chaos recipe and picking the smallest orbs and scrolls is sub optimal.

Well of course it is!
Also doing any build other than X, Y or Z is sub-optimal.
Playing this game with anything other than an nvidia graphics card is sub-optimal.

Being honest and helpful in chat is sub-optimal.

There's more to playing a game than just what's optimal.


You don't have to Chain Maps to see gains. That's the point. You and OldManBlackdragon fail to see the Forest for the Trees.

I don't care how much time you spent decorating your Hideout, or how much time you spent chatting with friends, looking at your favorite unique in stash, or browsing the shop for MTX specials.

The fact is...it will always take you LONGER to run each individual map simply due to the Chaos recipe. Over the span of MANY MAPS, you could gained have ~40% more time to do whatever the hell you want to do. If you spend that extra ~40% of time in maps, it would have resulted in 40% more wealth than whatever you have right now.
Последняя редакция: alg0801#6288. Время: 6 февр. 2017 г., 17:00:12
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Kev265 написал:


Found that and sold it for 13ex in under an hour so I'll never do the chaos recipe again


Jackpot. I have no idea why he thought it was worth 13 ex.

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Nephalim написал:


Jackpot. I have no idea why he thought it was worth 13 ex.



Shhhhh don't say things like that, people ask for refundslol.

I listed it for 25ex for fun then though is lower it to 13ex about 10 mins later expecting an offer maybe it it just sold lol
Maybe I'm just too absorbed into what is tried and true, but the only way I ever make any reliable money is through the Un-id chaos recipe.

I usually make a couple exalts through trading and the like, but all the real money I make is through converting chaos from the recipe into exalts when the ratios are skewed towards me.

For example, this league I made around 8-10 exalts through trading, but around 25 exalts through just converting chaos from the recipe. I always hear streamers and their viewers saying things like "Spin you rng wheel" (Ziz) through identifying all of your jewelry but to this day I have not yet found one semi-decent piece of jewelry.
gimme money bitch
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alg0801 написал:


You don't have to Chain Maps to see gains. That's the point. You and OldManBlackdragon fail to see the Forest for the Trees.

I don't care how much time you spent decorating your Hideout, or how much time you spent chatting with friends, looking at your favorite unique in stash, or browsing the shop for MTX specials.

The fact is...it will always take you LONGER to run each individual map simply due to the Chaos recipe. Over the span of MANY MAPS, you could gained have ~40% more time to do whatever the hell you want to do. If you spend that extra ~40% of time in maps, it would have resulted in 40% more wealth than whatever you have right now.


Except what you are missing is some of us really enjoy dinking around in a map picking up rares fully aware that it isn't the fastest way to make currency. I am aware that picking up armor scraps is not an efficient use of time, but I still do it because I enjoy it. I could just run stuff faster pick up only the valuable items then trade them for crappy armor scraps, but that isn't fun for me. I still pick up armor scraps 2 months into the league even though I have no use for them, won't trade them and the only possible use I might find for them is vendoring them for blacksmith stones, to do the chisel recipe which is also an inefficient use of time. Why? because I enjoy picking up armor scraps.

Being rich isn't everyone's sole motivation for playing the game. If you offered me 10 mirrors for an armor scrap would I take it? Sure but I'm not going to do something I don't like for 40% more currency when I could have fun for 40% less currency.

Obviously life choices don't mirror game choices but think of it this way. Think of something you really hate doing. Now consider if doing that for a 40% bigger paycheck is worth it. The answer won't always be the same. Sometimes yes you suck it up work at a crummy job and make bank. But likely at some point in your life you would rather just make a little less money and work somewhere that you enjoy. Also note that yes some people are lucky enough to get that 40% extra at a job they really enjoy, that's great, but not everyone has that option.

Последняя редакция: OldmanBlackdragon#4644. Время: 6 февр. 2017 г., 17:38:02
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Atlantae написал:
Maybe I'm just too absorbed into what is tried and true, but the only way I ever make any reliable money is through the Un-id chaos recipe.

I usually make a couple exalts through trading and the like, but all the real money I make is through converting chaos from the recipe into exalts when the ratios are skewed towards me.

For example, this league I made around 8-10 exalts through trading, but around 25 exalts through just converting chaos from the recipe. I always hear streamers and their viewers saying things like "Spin you rng wheel" (Ziz) through identifying all of your jewelry but to this day I have not yet found one semi-decent piece of jewelry.


And I've made roughly 10ex in 2 weeks dedicated farming (Maybe played 1 hour per day during weekdays) starting fresh on Breach and leveling 2 characters.

That's while having a full time job and a wife, with a baby about 2 weeks away.

Do I still waste time in game? Do I still take time to help other players for no benefit of my own? Yes, everybody does these things. The amount of time I spend per map though is consistent over many maps, and same for you.

Even if every piece of jewelry that you pick up is garbage (they're not), you still make more currency in the long run off just flat out having more of everything. I list every jewelry/jewel that looks like it might sell for no less than 1 chaos because it's not worth the time exiting a map for less.
Последняя редакция: alg0801#6288. Время: 6 февр. 2017 г., 18:24:29
Because it's easier than going braindead trying to chain 20 maps/hour, SF?
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alg0801 написал:
Even if every piece of jewelry that you pick up is garbage (they're not), you still make more currency in the long run off just flat out having more of everything. I list every jewelry/jewel that looks like it might sell for no less than 1 chaos because it's not worth the time exiting a map for less.


I tried to do that throughout most of the beginning of Essence League just to try something new (and because all the cool kids were doing it) and for the time I did it, I lost a lot of money. I made some small sales at the beginning and after more or less nothing. I only tried to sell jewelry that was worth a damn, and those were few and far in-between; I made sure to cycle out the jewelry that lost its value as more and more people found items, I still made less money than I would have if I had just Un-id vendored everything for 2c a set.

Maybe I just have shit RNG, but I honestly feel like it's easier to reliably make currency with the chaos recipe than gambling away my jewelry hoping for a couple of decent corresponding mods. I might be more inclined to just ID everything if I played more, as I'd be finding a lot more jewelry altogether, but as it stands, as someone who plays maybe 2-3 hours a day regardless of circumstance, the chaos recipe just feels better.
gimme money bitch

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