[3.9] Pure Phys Skeletons & Friends Necromancer — Beginner/SSF/Budget Build

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velvetpaws12 написал:

I really hope they take the route of buffing other specs and classes or balancing their game better to treat the disease rather than the symptoms. There is one main reason why people play necro in so huge numbers: It's safe. Yes, it has good damage. Yes, it has good clear speed. But above all, it's just super safe. I rerolled from my Stormburst trickster to Necro because my trickster had a huge chance of dying to Metamorphs in red maps, whereas with the necro you just summon your minions, stay away and chill, and then collect the loot. I can't say I am a huge fan of having so many minions on the screen with the vaal skeletons that you can barely see shit anymore, but it is without a doubt the best spec to play this league.

I never reached endgame before and thanks to this guide, I did and on a very small budget as well. I'll be a bit bummed if they take away from the player's agency simply because their balancing is out of tune at times. For us necros metamorphs are loot machines but for some other classes out there they are downright terrifying.

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Undisputed22 написал:

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velvetpaws12 написал:

I really hope they take the route of buffing other specs and classes or balancing their game better to treat the disease rather than the symptoms. There is one main reason why people play necro in so huge numbers: It's safe. Yes, it has good damage. Yes, it has good clear speed. But above all, it's just super safe. I rerolled from my Stormburst trickster to Necro because my trickster had a huge chance of dying to Metamorphs in red maps, whereas with the necro you just summon your minions, stay away and chill, and then collect the loot. I can't say I am a huge fan of having so many minions on the screen with the vaal skeletons that you can barely see shit anymore, but it is without a doubt the best spec to play this league.

I never reached endgame before and thanks to this guide, I did and on a very small budget as well. I'll be a bit bummed if they take away from the player's agency simply because their balancing is out of tune at times. For us necros metamorphs are loot machines but for some other classes out there they are downright terrifying.

I play with a few friends this season a couple of them went ranger and another went shadow this season. A necro is completely unbalanced and I almost feel bad playing with them. We outclass them in DPS, have easier access to health nodes (let alone MOM), have minions to tank/taunt and have a ton of range with skeletons able to fight pretty far away. Evasion is just a broken mechanic especially this season with one-shots being so common. Something definitely needs to change and probably a lot of things.

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kestak написал:

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Undisputed22 написал:

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velvetpaws12 написал:

I really hope they take the route of buffing other specs and classes or balancing their game better to treat the disease rather than the symptoms. There is one main reason why people play necro in so huge numbers: It's safe. Yes, it has good damage. Yes, it has good clear speed. But above all, it's just super safe. I rerolled from my Stormburst trickster to Necro because my trickster had a huge chance of dying to Metamorphs in red maps, whereas with the necro you just summon your minions, stay away and chill, and then collect the loot. I can't say I am a huge fan of having so many minions on the screen with the vaal skeletons that you can barely see shit anymore, but it is without a doubt the best spec to play this league.

I never reached endgame before and thanks to this guide, I did and on a very small budget as well. I'll be a bit bummed if they take away from the player's agency simply because their balancing is out of tune at times. For us necros metamorphs are loot machines but for some other classes out there they are downright terrifying.

I play with a few friends this season a couple of them went ranger and another went shadow this season. A necro is completely unbalanced and I almost feel bad playing with them. We outclass them in DPS, have easier access to health nodes (let alone MOM), have minions to tank/taunt and have a ton of range with skeletons able to fight pretty far away. Evasion is just a broken mechanic especially this season with one-shots being so common. Something definitely needs to change and probably a lot of things.

I do not want to belittle anyone, but quite a few players think they know very well the game when they are not that knowledgeable and their opinion is baseless. To be good at this game you need to be in the top 20% percentile. Only the top 1% will be able to make it to ubers. Heck! Just look to who made it to 36 challenges this league and they were easier than last league.

I do not think they will touch necro. When you look at the %, yes it is used more, but it is not as bad as Cyclone was or how it was last league. Witch ALWAYS, in almost any game I played, was the most played class. If you look at the past leagues, Witch was top 3 all the time. Remember Winter orb? ;-). MOreover, the following league always see an uptick in the prevalent class of the previous league.

What makes Necro class apart it the lack of skill (and currency) a player needs to play it fairly well. However, to play it very good or excellent, skills AND currency are needed. With the new buff to uber elder and Atziri, an average player can not win without knowing the mechanics. Same thing with Sirius. The player will die 6 times before ending the fight.

Necro is the new lazy build (Before it was totem). Melee still is the poor type of gameplay. They fixed it with cyclone in 3.7 in a lazy way (breaking molten at the same time). I do think they missed their shot with bow skill this league simply because they made EVERYTHING hit harder so the buff was nullified.

As an exercise, just go around the players posting in witch section and look at their build this season. Most of them lack a lot of mid-range items, misuse of skills, less than efficient support skills and the tree....well... The numbers for the stats you see are the players with quite some play experience and are not the majority of the players for this league.

Thank you

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I'm not sure what you are actually advocating for

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d3viant6 написал:

"A necro is completely unbalanced and I almost feel bad playing with them"

WHY? Game is (mostly) about efficiency and fun is in the backseat for MOST people. We game to GAIN, either experience OR currency to keep funding your fun, if it's not efficient you (almost) can't progress.

I already said I don't think Necro is too IMBA; hell my torado shot Impale Champ STILL stomps ALL OVER my Necro for speed /bossing at about same level of investment, with OR without HH (if you care to check).

This is still by far my favorite Necro build, but I think Slave Drivers still had better clear, with the monster ele resist changes tho, sure glad I went PHYSICAL!!

Love you all