Delve sucks

The need to farm sulphurite to drive the crawler, the need to farm azurite for flares and dynamite, blowing up fractures, and the death-stepping-into-darkness just makes for an egregiously un-fun experience. I gave it a shot and found it sorely lacking.
I just uninstalled after giving Delve as fair of a shake as I possibly could. Some of the awful mechanics are going to be improved, which is nice if they actually get good enough to not suck. I died every damn time I broke through a wall due to how shitty flares are, and that was a bunch of times. I never even got to see what was on the other side, since I always died immediately to a swarm of unkillable enemies because my only light source was a tiny flare that I somehow could never manage to actually stand on. Other aspects of Delve, like the horrible bouncing back and forth grinding for sulfite, then delving, then grinding, then delving, is probably going to suck just as hard forever without ever being improved.

I still haven't explored the darkness off the path due to the shitty DOT mechanic combined with the shitty flare mechanic (no AOE and limited uses? what the fuck, GGG?). I still hate being forced to rush through every single delve at a pace I don't enjoy. I just absolutely fucking hate the game GGG seems set on turning POE into.

They also keep adding a shitload of particle effects to every zone in every expansion, killing my performance. I don't think I hit over 15 FPS while delving, which is pure cancer. Their "we're never adding an option to disable particle effects" stance is just as bullshit today as the first time I heard it.

Too damn many hours later, Delve still sucks. Do better, GGG.
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Jennik написал:
I just uninstalled after giving Delve as fair of a shake as I possibly could. Some of the awful mechanics are going to be improved, which is nice if they actually get good enough to not suck. I died every damn time I broke through a wall due to how shitty flares are, and that was a bunch of times. I never even got to see what was on the other side, since I always died immediately to a swarm of unkillable enemies because my only light source was a tiny flare that I somehow could never manage to actually stand on. Other aspects of Delve, like the horrible bouncing back and forth grinding for sulfite, then delving, then grinding, then delving, is probably going to suck just as hard forever without ever being improved.

I still haven't explored the darkness off the path due to the shitty DOT mechanic combined with the shitty flare mechanic (no AOE and limited uses? what the fuck, GGG?). I still hate being forced to rush through every single delve at a pace I don't enjoy. I just absolutely fucking hate the game GGG seems set on turning POE into.

They also keep adding a shitload of particle effects to every zone in every expansion, killing my performance. I don't think I hit over 15 FPS while delving, which is pure cancer. Their "we're never adding an option to disable particle effects" stance is just as bullshit today as the first time I heard it.

Too damn many hours later, Delve still sucks. Do better, GGG.


After all these leagues, have you ever thought that maybe it's just you that's the issue, and not ALL of these little things that are so TERRIBLE?

I mean, sure flares are clunky, sure you get over-levelled while in acts, but you just open the fucking game and play it, and CHOOSE to have fun while they fix some minor clunkiness. I always see you just complain about every fucking thing. News flash - THIS GAME IS NOT FOR YOU. GO PLAY SOME OTHER GAME. If you uninstalled then that's it, no need for more commentary and see you in 3 months sir!
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Jennik написал:
I just uninstalled after giving Delve as fair of a shake as I possibly could. Some of the awful mechanics are going to be improved, which is nice if they actually get good enough to not suck. I died every damn time I broke through a wall due to how shitty flares are, and that was a bunch of times. I never even got to see what was on the other side, since I always died immediately to a swarm of unkillable enemies because my only light source was a tiny flare that I somehow could never manage to actually stand on. Other aspects of Delve, like the horrible bouncing back and forth grinding for sulfite, then delving, then grinding, then delving, is probably going to suck just as hard forever without ever being improved.

I still haven't explored the darkness off the path due to the shitty DOT mechanic combined with the shitty flare mechanic (no AOE and limited uses? what the fuck, GGG?). I still hate being forced to rush through every single delve at a pace I don't enjoy. I just absolutely fucking hate the game GGG seems set on turning POE into.

They also keep adding a shitload of particle effects to every zone in every expansion, killing my performance. I don't think I hit over 15 FPS while delving, which is pure cancer. Their "we're never adding an option to disable particle effects" stance is just as bullshit today as the first time I heard it.

Too damn many hours later, Delve still sucks. Do better, GGG.


How come do peope have reached 300+ depths in HC and have been using fossils and stuff there too ?
I mean, it would all be very inaccessible in HC ( or even in SC in the most extreme case ), then maybe you would have a point but ..... it's just not the case.
I agree about flares being not easy to use though, but that is getting changed already.
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
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鬼殺し написал:
The fact that I loved it the moment I started testing it, despite despising both Bestiary and Incursion, probably indicates that I also want PoE to be a different game than it turned out to be.


Ahhhhhhhhhh.

Now I know why those so-called 1k hour testers are useless.

None of you boys told GGG that was utter crap? lol.
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WithLoveEarL написал:
I always see you just complain about every fucking thing.


Have you noticed that almost all of the problems I complain about get fixed eventually? I'm not just making shit up here. POE is full of flaws. You may be blind to them, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. The issue is that it can take GGG years to do something about trivially easy to fix issues.

Do you know why Zana gives you a free map every tier and allows you to run random maps with a bench mod now? Because map accessibility was garbage. It was garbage since day one, though. Why the fuck did it take so long to make two small changes that had a massive effect on accessing maps?

If you dig through my post history and see what I complain about, you'll notice a clear pattern of me being absolutely fucking right. I don't care what GGG apologists have to say about my feedback. I don't write it for people like you who have no ability to fix the game. I write it for GGG, who do have that ability.

I'm just tired of it taking so damn long for them to make the shittier aspects suck less. That combined with the fact that they consistently fail to learn from their mistakes keeps POE being a far worse game that it should be.

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Fruz написал:
How come do peope


Of all the GGG apologists littering this board, you've always been the most eloquent. I never said the aspects of Delve I'm complaining about are literally impossible to interact with. Why respond as if I did?

Edit: Found a relevant post from the "map accessibility sucks" thread.

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Jennik написал:
I've made this damn thread every release since Atlas hit. I'm always hoping it'll be the last one. I kept making threads about giving every class all the gems. I kept making threads about the lack of reminders in the lab. I think almost every thread of mine has been resolved because my complaints are about legitimate problems that impact most players, and which have an easy solution that improves the game instead of simply changing it.

Still, every damn time I make one of these threads, people come along and say the most ridiculous nonsense. I make these threads for GGG, though, not the worst members of the POE community. I don't know if GGG actually listens when someone makes coherent, reasonable complaints and requests, but they sure as hell fix nearly everything I complain about within a couple of leagues.
Последняя редакция: Jennik#1783. Время: 5 сент. 2018 г., 05:32:39
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de99ial написал:
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de99ial написал:
Yeah game is very very unstable... Unplayable. I farmed two Oni Goroshis so now i have difficulty with entering to Mud Flats. Yeah....

I must say from my experience it is THE WORST league ive experienced. And i could not even go into mine camp.


I have no idea what farming OGs has to do with having difficulty entering mud flats. What do you mean, having difficulty? Is it crashing? That's hardly league feedback then.

Your 'so' makes no sense at all, unless you can prove that farming OGs directly causes crashing. Learn the difference between causality and coincidence.


Game crashes very often.

Entering Mud Flats from The Coast - most likely game crash. After restarting it works but then leaving Mud Flats - game crash.

Also i can not go into mine camp (quest from Nico) because game crash every time. No matter the settings i choose.

The interesting part - i play on DX9 and if i try to switch off shadows game crashes but after restart shadows are again on.

Is farming OG a cause of that? Dunno but from what i see im one of a few that actually did this and im probably the only one - based on feedback to my thread on forum - that facing this issue. So maby there is some factor just making a note for anyone who checks the code. Also game worked great while farmin, problems started after leaving Lioneye Watch.

No i see there is some patch. Gonna see if this helps.

If you play with the Steam client, check integrity of local files: https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=2037-QEUH-3335
You can try to uninstall/reinstall the game if you didn't already.
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Jennik написал:
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Fruz написал:
How come do peope


Of all the GGG apologists littering this board, you've always been the most eloquent. I never said the aspects of Delve I'm complaining about literally impossible to interact with. Why respond as if I did?

I didn't speak about 'impossible'. I said "very inaccessible" ( maybe I should have said "hardly accessible" instead ).

What you said about Delve really sounds like the different leagues element are very hard to use, and I'm just saying that no, it's really not that bad, as many have been doing it and without dying.
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
once again
- no point in doing the mechanic while you are leveling
- once you kill kitava I am once again forced into grinding maps for some new resource so I can access new content. I am personally sick of maps
- the delves the darkness mechanic that prods me along a linear path at computer set speed does not let me even pick up loot forget exploring anything
- the upgrade costs of new mechanics are ridiculous or for those who play 24/7
- explore a nook outside of whatever is main pah - death
- take a wrong turn - death
- try to explore with flares - death
- get to the destination with cart thing then kill waves that spawn ... could have easily made something more engaging instead like bosses that spawn or a unique pack or something instead of just waves that waste time and not fun its like eleron missions you activate one and go afk oh and most master mission - good god why are they in the game at current state
-lab is still around and is forced on every character

I would probably stop playing if I wasnt playing with a friend.
Последняя редакция: asdfen#3504. Время: 5 сент. 2018 г., 09:05:49
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Mischief67 написал:
Ahhhhhhhhhh.

Now I know why those so-called 1k hour testers are useless.

None of you boys told GGG that was utter crap? lol.


Chris was speaking specifically about GGG employees when he said that.

Hm...yeah, ignoring you. No loss methinks.


1. You don't give the game to be tested to employees. Technically yes, regarding real feedback no. Get educated.

2. With work, kids, real life, and so on, good luck on 1k hours for them. Real hours, not bullshit technical testing at work. Also, good luck on getting an adequate number of testers from all ages.

3. You said yourself that you tested it (and the previous releases). You spent a ton of time on the game. So what's your excuse now?

There you got schooled.

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