Warning if you get hacked GGG will do nothing to fix it!!!

Thats why you dont ever give GGG any money. simple man.

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bobatronik написал:

Thats why you dont ever give GGG any money. simple man.

This. If they can't protect your assets, they don't deserve your money.

(oh wait, the ToS probably states that all assets belong to them, not you, and by owning an account you just have a temporary right to use said assets)

Regardless, GGG could fix this by giving every single item/currency a unique hash.

It would then be fairly trivial to find the original copies of said item and give them back without any risk of duping, as long as you did a bit of data logging on what constitutes ownership of an item and what constitutes "losing" an item (trading it away or dropping it).

Basically, just add some traceability to the loot system.

The only problem is, this would take actual effort from GGG.

And GGG does not like expending actual effort.

They would rather release new microtransactions and unique items.

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yamiho90 написал:

Rhetorical or not,that is actually your fault,these days usually it's people that are careless that get their CC/Phones stolen.

You're probably the same kind of person who tells a rape victim that it's their fault for dressing like that and "asking for it."

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bobatronik написал:

Thats why you dont ever give GGG any money. simple man.

This. If they can't protect your assets, they don't deserve your money.

How is it their fault? What sort of proof do you have that their security is problematic? If that's the case why are thousands/millions of users completely safe and haven't made any complaints? If there was a security issue, it would be much bigger than the occasional random person complaining that they lost their stuff.

It's not GGG's job to do any more then keep their own side secure— they can't do anything about people being careless with their internet/computer/account/password use. It's absolutely no different than blaming a store that your wallet got stolen while you were there. It's not the store's duty to babysit you, but rather only protect their own possessions.

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Alexdaemon написал:

So many dumb people.
Okay last time for the simpletons: If you get hacked, ITS YOUR FAULT.
/thread.

There is no way to protect yourself from targeted attack, which could pay off if you are really rich with exalts

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Courageous написал:

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If you get hacked, ITS YOUR FAULT.

If you get your credit card stolen, it's your fault. Right? Riiiiiight? (This question is rhetorical, hint hint).

Blame is not the issue here.

Youre totally right its MY fault you are not careful with YOUR STUFF.
Hint hint.

Barblo 3 recently changed their policy to making all items on a compromised account BOA. So if someone does indeed become hacked they can still play but can not trade any of the restored items.

Does not fix issue but at least ppl could still play their high level char if indeed they were hacked.

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Alexdaemon написал:

Youre totally right its MY fault you are not careful with YOUR STUFF.
Hint hint.

Except that the vast bulk of credit card account compromises aren't a result of the victim's actions.

What you're exhibiting here is called the "just-world fallacy". The famous illustration is that if you play people recordings of other people in pain, they will start to think the people they hear in pain are bad people. Why? Because we want to feel that the world is just, and that if other people are suffering, it is somehow their fault. Otherwise we feel bad.

But it doesn't actually turn out to be true. Victim-blaming is an easy way to make yourself feel happier, but it does not correlate to the reality of the world around us at all. Credit card fraud typically involves compromises of corporate computer systems, or just plain brute-force attacks. MMO account compromises are very often the result of poor security choices by end-users, but by no means exclusively so. Company databases get compromised, security holes are found in their code... It happens.

The thing with reflexively asserting that it's always the victim's fault is frankly pathetic. It's not based on actual information. It might be based on statistics, except that you clearly show here that it's not, because you feel the same way about credit card fraud. And we know that credit card fraud is predominantly not the result of end-user error. So it's not about an actual evaluation of probabilities, even. It's about your desire to not be made sad by the knowledge that bad things happen to innocent people all the damn time.

But that's the reality. There will be people whose accounts get cleared out, not because they did anything wrong or particularly stupid, but because of something someone else did. And even if the user made a stupid mistake, the reality is that the moral culpability has to lie entirely with the attackers, not with the victims.

Me, I've been lucky; so far, I've never had anything taken from any of my MMO accounts. But I know perfectly well that there have been many occasions on which it could have happened, through no particular fault of mine, and it's just luck that it hasn't happened to me.

I'm just curious why keyloggers are being blamed. Think about the last time you entered a password into your email account, your path of exile account, or pretty much any account. I think the last time I actually keyed passwords in was about 6 months ago when I first got my laptop. Other then that it is saved. How would a keylogger catch any account names or passwords if they are never entered? I think there is more to it then just keyloggers.