05/03/2013 RIP Economy

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Bars написал:

Edit: I have zero experience in ARPG PvP but I believe one possible solution is low-level PvP which almost neutralizes the gear aspect.

Low level PvP in WoW was a hell of a lot more costly than regular high level PvP. I imagine it would be the same here. There are some ridiculously overpowered low level items in PoE (though some are leveling uniques, so not hard to get).

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Mivo написал:

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Bars написал:

Edit: I have zero experience in ARPG PvP but I believe one possible solution is low-level PvP which almost neutralizes the gear aspect.

Low level PvP in WoW was a hell of a lot more costly than regular high level PvP. I imagine it would be the same here. There are some ridiculously overpowered low level items in PoE (though some are leveling uniques, so not hard to get).

Yeah, ofc there are overpowered low-level items, I just thought their price would be reasonable. By "reasonable" I mean achievable by anyone without extravagant time investment.

But, well. As I said, PvP and gear-based games don't mix well. If it's PvP you want, there are excellent games for that.

lol imagine like 2-3 years later after another 10 seasons of the game have passed and standard would have absorbed that much worth of gear and exalts.wonder about that then

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donong написал:

lol imagine like 2-3 years later after another 10 seasons of the game have passed and standard would have absorbed that much worth of gear and exalts.wonder about that then

As far as I see it, prices change when the supply/demand ratio changes. Simply putting more stuff in the economy means nothing. It would change if there was an accumulation only of gear or only of currency. Actually, in the long term, prices should drop because gear is permanent while there are numerous currency sinks. This may not apply to some extremely rare and valuable items, but it seems logical as a general rule.

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Mivo написал:

It's not so black and white, unless you play entirely self-found or have no high level ambitions.

My ambitions are in having fun.
Btw becoming good or best in game does not necessarily mean having to be high on ladder. Success has different meaning to each individual.

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Thorien_Kell написал:

My ambitions are in having fun.
Btw becoming good or best in game does not necessarily mean having to be high on ladder. Success has different meaning to each individual.

I agree with that and that is how I play (my "best" character is entirely self-found), but we're not discussing personal preferences. At least, not only. You can choose to not be affected by RMT and its effects, but this requires you to skip various elements of the game: namely ladder competitions and PvP. Possibly even high level mapping and challenges.

It's avoidable, but the game is (sadly) designed around trading, and trading is affected by RMT.

there is a fresh 4-months
who fucking care about standard:3 :3

If the economy worries you so much, just play the 4 months leagues. Problem solved.

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Bars написал:

I don't treat MMOs and ARPGs as PvP games. If I want PvP, there are many other solid PvP games where the outcome depends purely on skill. I've played SC and DotA for about 10 years in total. Why would you want to play PvP in a game where 90% of the outcome depends on your items and items depend on investment of time (or other resources) :)

I don't really understand either why so many people are hyped about PvP's in aRPG's. Well, I do understand as D2 PvP was fun. But I don't understand why they worry so much about balance etc. in a mostly gear/build based game. When I want some "pvp action", I just log on GGPO and play ST (and even in fighting games, there are tier lists). But that's just me.

What a bizarre post. Seemingly tons of new, fresh content hitting the client, awesome looking mechanics, just mindblowing teasers...

"But the economy"

Standard is not poe.