Rarity !! It's actually good for the game !! Change my mind !!!

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you think but you dont know, which is what I and OP are saying, you cant tell devs to remove something because you "think" its unbalanced

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LVSviral#3689 написал:

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LVSviral#3689 wrote:

I don't want loot just tossed at me for free. I actually like not needing a loot filter and have been avoiding using one so far for PoE2 and I like it so far. I just think that a player's gear affecting loot rewards is a net negative considering all of PoE's variables.


you think but you dont know, which is what I and OP are saying, you cant tell devs to remove something because you "think" its unbalanced

I literally CAN tell devs this. It's a feedback forum dude.

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I "think" something based of my understanding and experience just like you "think" something else based on your understanding and experience. The same "thinking" of things applies to the devs.

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lol, dont be a pedant dude

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LVSviral#3689 написал:

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lol, dont be a pedant dude

If magic find is so minor it isn't worth addressing... Then why the hell are we both talking about it along with a massive amount of the playerbase? It clearly needs some form of balance change, even if the end result isn't how either of us individuals think it should be addressed.

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LVSviral#3689 написал:

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lol, dont be a pedant dude

If magic find is so minor it isn't worth addressing... Then why the hell are we both talking about it along with a massive amount of the playerbase? It clearly needs some form of balance change, even if the end result isn't how either of us individuals think it should be addressed.

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Akedomo#3573 написал:

Because you're falling for the easy bait.

The real issue is that this game is balanced around "The Economy"

which makes Magic Find builds an issue. Because you know. The Economy.

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CPTBRUMBL3Z#3146 написал:

Given how many classes/builds can barely spare a single affix, it's bad. Given that some classes/builds can run around barely caring about more than 3 or 4 affixes per piece of gear and can stack magic find and still clear faster than what should be entirely viable classes/builds needing most gear to have 5 or 6 specific affixes per piece of gear makes it completely unbalanced. Furthermore, given that not everybody likes playing "magic find" builds is reason enough for it to be gotten rid of entirely.

Magic find should be a natural process that isn't tied to gear and should be redone to be implemented in part or in whole in the following ways:

1. Provide a buff to magic find as you play (character by character basis with an offline timer of 15 minutes as disconnect protection, but remaining in-game it doesn't run out). This buff should increase per magic, rare, and boss enemy killed. The buff should cap out reasonably quickly and the cap increases with each completed act, say reaching 60% at the end of campaign.

2. Building on 1, completing maps should also increase it in a cumulative fashion. Each map tier adds 1% per tier up to tier 10 with a 1% flat increase per tier, 5 completions of the appropriate tier reaches the cap of that tier, so tier 1 adds 5% after 5 completions, tier 2 is worth 2% capping at 10%, all the way to 10+ adding 10% per completion capping at 50%. Completing a 10, a 9, and 3 8's would bring the buff to 43%, doing 4 more tier 10+ maps would bring it to 50%

3. Content focusing should also increase MF for that content. Beat a boss? Next boss you fight has an extra 10% MF, increasing 10% per boss up to a cap of 50% for boss kills only. Beat a breach and completed the map? Next Breach you open, all breach mobs and hands have a 10% MF, adding 10% per completed breach up to 50%. Corrupted map? 10% MF on Corrupted creatures. Delirium? Expedition? Same deal. This rewards players that like or focus specific content.

4. All waystone mods should contribute to magic find, the more potentially dangerous the higher the MF, and still have the MF mod roll.

5. Every atlas passive tree node should increase MF at least slightly, with a branch focused exclusively on pumping base MF.

6. One/limited use items to add to the Traverse "inventory" when setting a waystone. Alternatively or additionally, purchase temporary MF from Doryani. The amount you can purchase is based on how many map tier quests you've completed, maybe starting at 25% after completely Tier 1 and increasing some small % per completed quest tier. This would cost gold (or a new currency) and that gold cost would increase along with the increase in MF, so it could be a great gold sink other than gamble.

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Edit- Nice stealth edit.

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I dont know..maybebecause this was AGAIN started by a bunch of chucklenuts for engagment..
also stop backpeddling, you and yours are arguing to remove an entire mechanic from the game, people are asking why and were met with insults and crying. Its like talking to a bunch of children that in fact, no we dont need to remove something you dont like JUST because you dont like it.
there needs to be a concrete reason

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People have also respectably given tons of concrete reasons in these "magic find/ item rarity" threads that I've seen you in. You keep ignoring valid discussion and focusing in on a few "empty" comments or rude comments and acting like those are the only ones here. That's just toxic and dismissive of actually constructive discussion.

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exsea#1724 написал:

rarity is good for players who are hyper optimized which is good for players that hyper optimize and is total shit for weaker players.

is it good for the game?

its subjective. if you define poe1's current state as good, then its good.

but many people are becoming jaded with it and hate how poe1 is so for them its no good.

i like build diversity. the existence of mf necessitates players to factor in mf into their gear. it also necessitates hyper optimization. all this does is push the requirement of a "viable build" up higher as not being able to get a decent mf makes your build bad.

the gap between weaker players vs better players grows exponentially.

players are funneled into playing certain optimized builds. if everyone poe2 is all about following builds, then i might as well just play poe1 (i wont lol).

in anycase ggg is adamant about having mf no matter how much players hate it.

we'll just wait and see how things go.