I LIKE PASSIVE SKILL RESETS!

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Agilaz написал:

They also gave you 24 character slots for a reason. Use that shit instead of rolling one of each and just respeccing whenever you fuck up or get bored.

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war4peace написал:

Oh yes, because going all over again through all those same mobs in those same areas with the same spawns and the same bosses for 1000 hours is fun as hell and totally desirable.

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Nightprowler написал:

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exploder написал:

For me it's the other way around, PvE gets in the way of PvP because its not fair be able to effective farm with a PvE build and then make the most effective build for PvP in a second and back to the PvE build again to be able to continue with your leveling. But I guess the most important thing that I said is the "Role-Playing Fact" and the "Replayability Fact".

And i dont understand, i find more challenging get through the game with a PvP build because it is going to be obviously harder than do it in the easy way, again i find more interesting to switch between chars to do diferent things, like D2, I have my Uber-killer, I have my Cold-MF-Sorc, I have my PvP Necromancer but I have 1 Vitawalkermancer and 1 Tweakermancer, 1 for 1vs1 and 1 for XvsX, also I have a PvE Cold Sorc and a PvP Fire Sorc and it is fun to have it all than rebuild the char for my needs =/

Regards

to be fair I wasn't advocating spec flip flop willy nilly.

Role play is what you make it, that comes down to what I was saying before about people forcing what they believe is most fun onto others. You can role play, no changes, you can role play many changes, but if not option exists, you can only role play the SINGLE "option" that is given.

Also as I said, do you really think having 1 full respec is going to severely alter replayability?

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Nightprowler написал:

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AntonChigur написал:

I would probably stop playing this game if they did skill resets. I would hate that.

and people call the ones asking for respecs whiners

:/

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oblomir написал:

And the other option is?

You don't magically get other areas with full respecs...

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RustyGalloway написал:

It is not the same. Respec-side is whining about a feature that was not a part of the original design of the game. My side are "whining" that the respec people are trying to change the game into something different. Another game, something that is not Path of Exile.

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exploder написал:

It seams like you dont even know what do you realy can do right now in the game... You say that you have a SINGLE "option" and that you want 1 full respec... So...

In maximum lvl you can have 111 skills (I guess, lvl 99-100 and full quest I dont remember), finishing the game you will have like 24 Re-spec points from quest or something like that (So far almost 25% of a full re-spec) so now you need the other 75% (80% i know its the same)... mmm like 87 respec points more, ok find 87 Orbs of Regret and that you go you have a full respec, then you can go and get more Orbs of Regret and respec more and more, also its obviously that you dont going to make a full respec in the maximum lvl maybe in lvl 80 or 70 or 60, so for a full respec in this lvl you will need less quantity of Orbs of Regret, ALSO you dont realy need to do a full full respec ALWAYS it all depends on what do you wanna change maybe for a full change of filosophy you only need to respec 2 Keystones or maybe a dont know... 10 skills to go to another branch of the tree...

POE dont need an easy way to respec because is a hardcore ARPG, even though you CAN respec but you need to be aware of what are you doing and wich way to choose, you only think in "Oh okay I wanna have my tree clean and respec from 0" but maybe you dont need to do that to a full change of build, make the build in the Web Passive Skill Tree and carefully respec just the skill you need to respec.

Regards

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RustyGalloway написал:

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Nightprowler написал:

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AntonChigur написал:

I would probably stop playing this game if they did skill resets. I would hate that.

and people call the ones asking for respecs whiners

:/

It is not the same. Respec-side is whining about a feature that was not a part of the original design of the game. My side are "whining" that the respec people are trying to change the game into something different. Another game, something that is not Path of Exile.

When you go to an Italian restaurant just to discover that they have stopped serving Italian food and suddenly have started offering Chinese food instead can hardly be classified as whining.

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DarkRay написал:

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Ferumbras написал:

Like I said before:

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Full respec can, and should, never be a part of PoE. This game is not just about designing a build that works at level 75+, but also about designing a build where you can reach level 75+.

Imagine that amazing (imaginary) Culling Strike Blood Magic Wand Marauder, where you are forced to either level up slowly since you can't boost your initial weapons/skills, or respec a lot later on to get rid of early taken leveling passives. Giving each character even 1 full respec completely negates the journey this build has to make. People would be foolish not to level this Marauder as a cookie cutter Ground Slam Marauder until level 50 or so, then use their full respec and go all out on wand + intelligence.

This can be said for any build with hard choices to be made. You want to use Blood Magic? You are going to avoid mana increase/regeneration nodes. So leveling means you need to find a way to make that work while working towards that moment where you can switch to actual Blood Magic. When do you make this switch? Early on with low health and low mana regen, or later when you have sufficient health?

What about hardcore mode where choices are even more brutal? You need the life to survive early levels, but you want to play with CI... what are you going to do?

No, I can understand why new players feel a sense of awe for the skilltree and the desire for full respecs to compensate for their early failures at designing a working build. Don't forget all of us closed beta players went through the same learning curve. This is not meant to sound elitism, but is simply the truth as to why the game works as it does.

You don't get to rush to 'max' level and repeat grind endgame for all eternity. No, from the moment you click on that first passive you are working towards a goal. That is the complexity of this game, that is what makes PoE unique. Don't dumb it down to all those other games out there...

Case closed.

Cap full resets at 30 lvl. Solved?
And make it cost 95 points. ( 96 for 10$ )
Casuals will be happy, hardcore gamers dont give a fuck.