Why I've given up hope of this game becoming great (but not quite on GGG)
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I still have hope for PoE, but I will comment on one thing that REALLY irritates me based on what others have posted.
" Ball Lightning appears to be inferior to Arc in like 90% of all situations. |
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" I know it's the 'hip' thing to bash D3 on these forums but try to be a little more objective than that. And kasub after thousands of hours across hundreds of characters I can say all that you listed is just poorly balanced fluff used to try to make the game seem different when it all just boils down to relatively few choices due to path of least resistance. And the affix system is literally the worst in any arpg I've seen. Non-unique itemization is absolutely uninspired. Kasub go play TQ:IT for an example of an arpg with truly great affixes and 'crafting' (it has limited crafting but is surprisingly fun and effective). Really though, I don't want to feel like this with PoE. I'd love for it to be like the D3 vanilla days and how PoE actually was eons ahead of the competition but as of right this second that's simply not true. |
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What are these "relatively few choices". You mention that phrase in passing without anything backing it up. I gave an example of one specific item type in a specific gearslot that already has very different choices depending on your build.
As for passive choices. It only really matters when you're really into planning builds. You start to realize how small choices can differ builds completely and how optimization changes it a whole lot. This vid demonstrates that perfectly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRDh6ePmrc4 Some wand nodes that are very popular end up worse due to pathing and efficiency. That adds up. Most builds I see posted are not efficient and just take the passive highways without really optimizing. Even without getting into optimizing, passive skill trees offer many choices that depend on the type of build you're making. The fact that there can be 10 completely different passives for the same skill is very much possible(I don't mean a few different passives, I mean completely different directions with builds that do different things). I've played TQ. I consider PoE's itemization to be better. I don't hate D3, it's completely objective to say that it has a far more simplistic affix system that offers little choice. It relies on a few stats doing everything. D3 itemization has not gotten better so to use that past tense is silly. If anything it has only gotten worse since the expansion simply inflated all the numbers of main stats(unique itemization in D3 has gotten better though). Последняя редакция: kasub#2910. Время: 6 июл. 2014 г., 14:02:56
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again, +1 to you Scrotie.
Alva: I'm sweating like a hog in heat
Shadow: That was fun |
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" Then we'll never agree because we have different expectations for an arpg. Which is totally fine, agree to disagree etc. I just want PoE to be better because I know it can be. I really wish they'd step it up and fix the problems that can be fixed. |
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Imo D2lod, median xl and poe are the only arpgs with good itemization.
TQ is decent for items.... slightly better than torchlight and the like. |
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" Arguing about itemization and passives etc. is redundant. If the core gameplay doesn't work, then the game absolutely blows bollocks. The reason why Path of Exile gets a free pass is because everyone is too busy pretending that they can run creative builds etc. and yet don't realize that in order to run higher level maps, you have to run certain keystones or have certain uniques, or you just flat out die or have the slowest fucking clear speed on the planet. Diablo 3 RoS may not have crazy customization, character building, interesting affixes, etc. but the core gameplay works, it's fun, and it involves some twitch aspects to it (such as timing your bubbles/evasion skills, etc. dodging certain projectiles, blah blah blah). The system occasionally glitches out and fails on you, and you may have a bullshit death here and there, but it's never to the extent of bullshit deaths that occur in PoE on a frequent basis unless you specifically metagame your tree to take into account for desync damage (which everyone that plays HC at high levels does). |
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I have never felt that twitch aspects in poe don't work because of desync. If I get hit by a vaal smash or dominus's fist of god, its my fault, not some game flaw. Sure desync can throw a wrench in things at times, but I feel it is heavily exaggerated unless everyone complaining about it is running cyclone with multistrike etc.
Back to what I said on page one, I really do feel like I am playing a different game than the critics on the forums. "This is just plain not true. Pick any keystone or item or skill and you can find tons of builds that do not need them. The ony part you are railroaded in your building is that you need a good amount of either es or life. This is not bad thouugh because many games are the exact opposite, where true endgame builds just build pure offense and building for defense is completely useless. Последняя редакция: Splift#4377. Время: 6 июл. 2014 г., 15:03:59
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it's ironic to see how pretty much all the old supporters of the game such as Scrotie and Charan are expressing their dissapointment in the game. Because that's what the game currently is: a big dissapointment. I personally haven't played in a long while because of the reasons overstated at this time on this board.
But GGG aren't really listening and they're doing their own thing adding silly useless shit in the game such as Vaal Gems. I guess no game is meant to last forever. But I guess that as long as Chris and the other founders got rich while doing this project (which I bet they did) they will write it off as a success and be happy with it. So, yea, keep on adding new 30 dollar MTX recolorings of the same flaming skulls and milk this for money boys and don't pay attention to the supporters whining. I know I would do it at this point. |
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"I would say its a success that they have kept such people interested for so long before they inevitably got bored. Right vaal gems are stupid and pointless, lets just continue this meta where everyone uses one dps skill, one movement skill and one curse. If Chris is rich from this its because they flat out deserved it. No other game has had less strings attached and less hooks in their "revenue stream". Why would he listen to people talking with your tone? You come off as an arrogant, entitled brat and bending their knee to such people would surely bring about the games true demise. |
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