How we can make divination cards farmable and don't hurm economy.

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Jgizle написал:

Just for example. How long have div cards been in the game? How many The Formless Sea div cards are available on standard? 16 total. How many sellers? 13 total. Not a single player has more than 2. Months to get those they do have and each card is over 20 chaos each.

Thats just one example. The drop rates are complete trash.

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YourDeathHere написал:

1. GOD how i tired to continue repeating that drop rate will be the same but with VERY pricy items that will increse drop rate for person who wears it (by increasing chances of getting divination card as drop in first place), like rarity for players who seeking for uniques.
This will not alter economy, it's just cant due of little amount of people doing so. (Not many people want to spend their time on divination card farming, when u have guarantee unique drop from Uber, Shaper.

2. This improvement will make cards more farmable, than it's now, and more time-currency worthly.
People farm a lot of axes from uber and swords from shaper does it change it's price? I've seen it's been stable till recently axe is dropped to 8 ex each from 9ex and it's again stable (around 1 month axe goes for that price) even if one single man can farm 10 of it a day and he don't need 200+ exalted to have proper gear to do so as i suggest to do with div. card so ur theory is broken entirely.

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Divination cards were falsely marketed as something they are not. That is why I am upset. I would not be sad to see them removed from the game entirely as they are pretty much useless and a waste of space. Pretty soon i am going to need a second stash tab just for all the trash divination cards I have that never will be completed.

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Divination cards should never be worth more than the item they represent. They should be worth less than the item they represent for a few specific reasons.

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Their low drop rate is why they are valued higher than what they represent.

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goetzjam написал:

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YourDeathHere написал:

1. GOD how i tired to continue repeating that drop rate will be the same but with VERY pricy items that will increse drop rate for person who wears it (by increasing chances of getting divination card as drop in first place), like rarity for players who seeking for uniques.
This will not alter economy, it's just cant due of little amount of people doing so. (Not many people want to spend their time on divination card farming, when u have guarantee unique drop from Uber, Shaper.

2. This improvement will make cards more farmable, than it's now, and more time-currency worthly.
People farm a lot of axes from uber and swords from shaper does it change it's price? I've seen it's been stable till recently axe is dropped to 8 ex each from 9ex and it's again stable (around 1 month axe goes for that price) even if one single man can farm 10 of it a day and he don't need 200+ exalted to have proper gear to do so as i suggest to do with div. card so ur theory is broken entirely.

1. What the fuck are you even talking about, if div cards are easier to farm, their value and the respective uniques are worth less.

2. Uber uniques and shaper uniques are gated by an entry fee and a challenge, not to mention RNG.


What is the challenge of farming climb, an area that requires no investment in currency and no challenge. Therefore should be less rewarding.



You have absolutely no concept of understanding the fact that if its time worthy to farm to div cards, the market for such items is impacted negatively.

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goetzjam написал:

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Divination cards were falsely marketed as something they are not. That is why I am upset. I would not be sad to see them removed from the game entirely as they are pretty much useless and a waste of space. Pretty soon i am going to need a second stash tab just for all the trash divination cards I have that never will be completed.

Except it isn't true for all of them, only the really high value uniques that need to be kept rare, else those uniques become that much less special.

Want a tabula you can get one by farming aqueducts, want a volls devotion you can eventually get one by farming voll (or his alternate map forms)


As for what to do with div cards, its best IMO to sell anything you don't want and once you find a couple of what you do want buy the rest with the profit made from others. Look at them as pieces to a puzzle, you can eventually compete it, but if you seek out help its obviously going to be much faster.


As for removing them they aren't going to go anywhere and they aren't going to change the way in which they drop, its not like GGG can set them to drop ever 100 runs flat, else whats the point, the 1 run out of 100 can feel special, but you can know exactly which one it is.


Many people don't pickup trash div cards, there are a number of them that really serve no real purpose of being useful due to either rarity or niche purpose.

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Divination cards should never be worth more than the item they represent. They should be worth less than the item they represent for a few specific reasons.

Somewhat false, it should be worth at LEAST as much as a min roll version because thats the least it can be.

Sockets don't really matter that much, at best if its far enough into the league you can pickup a cheaper 5 link 6 socket, but for the first month or so the cost to 6 socket 5 link is fairly significant, so much so that you can just do it yourself for likely the additional cost people want.


Secondly you only play standard? What happens in standard is VASTLY different then what happens in the 80% of the game that other people play. Div cards couldn't possibly be "worth it" in a league saturated with uniques from all other previous leagues.

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Their low drop rate is why they are valued higher than what they represent.

No their demand for challenges and the ability to piece together a unique step by step is what makes them valued high. I can buy div cards like brittle emperor early in a league, but the unique item and cost of the div cards would increase at a rather high rate due to demand. So by buying those early on I'm actually getting a better investment.


Lets say week one I get one for 10c, week two the price is 25c, week 3 the price is 40c. If I get 2 every week, the savings is significantly higher then if I just save up and buy them all at once or just buy the unique item. This allows people in temp leagues to build towards these bigger items at steps that don't really lose value, like a lot of things do in this game. Is this how div cards were marketed, probably not, but the reality of the situation is its still helpful to have them.