That feel when the Chaos Recipe becomes a waste of time

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Ceri написал:

All you speed people just don't get it. Yeah, if you're min/maxing stuff and aim to be as efficient as possible - you are probably correct.

But do you really think everyone wants to play as fast and efficiently as possible? I sure don't. I have no aspirations to become a bot, and I don't even enjoy playing quickly. Heck, most of the time I don't even use quicksilver flasks because I feel no need for them. I'm plenty quick without them, most of the time. I do use them on Cyclone builds though, that Less Movespeed is just brutal. ;)

So yeah, I enjoy both the chaos and the regal recipe. I shove all jewellery into a dedicated tab (TWO even, one for chaos and one for regal! Imagine the waste) after each map, unidentified. I pick up and ID good bases of other gear, and all quality rares that can be used in the recipe. Whenever I get a set of quality rares I push them all to 20% and do the 3C/3R recipe. Easy money. This is way faster (for me anyway) than ID'ing them and determining if they're usable or not. Which they almost never are. I don't think I've ever found any jewellery worth anything. In fact I made it a point to ID all jwewllery back in Darkshrines, just to see what I was missing out on. Some usable stuff, sure, but nothing valuable. And I had almost no chaoses to map with and no regals at all. That sucked.

Anyway, just by doing this I don't have to trade anything - I accumulate all the chaoses and regals I need for my own use. Because fuck trading.

Guess I'm still a noob. Feels good. :)

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Docbp87 написал:

That's fair. It is definitely a question of goals. If your goal is just to generate just enough chaos that you need, then the chaos recipe can totally be an option. If you don't care about getting as rich as possible, etc. then yeah. And you're right, I'm sure there are players that genuinely enjoy the process of sorting and putting together their chaos recipes. I just prefer to be killing mobs.

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Ceri написал:

But do you really think everyone wants to play as fast and efficiently as possible?

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Rexeos написал:

Besides "wealthy" players are doing chaos recipes too.

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Docbp87 написал:

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Rexeos написал:

Besides "wealthy" players are doing chaos recipes too.

I don't know about this. The wealthiest players I know don't waste their time with chaos recipe.

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torturo написал:

Even those who don't are unlikely to have fun with the intense stash management and the chore this recipe is.

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leto2626 написал:

Personally I like arranging stashes etc, so the recipe is a nice side effect. I like picking stuff up, I don't like the clearspeed 'don't pick up anything anymore' meta.

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alg0801 написал:

However, this thread is about the Chaos recipe being a noob trap. It's unethical to continue to push noobs towards this action if you yourself know that it is a very inefficient way of generating currency.

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torturo написал:

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Ceri написал:

But do you really think everyone wants to play as fast and efficiently as possible?

Even those who don't are unlikely to have fun with the intense stash management and the chore this recipe is.
It's unrelated to the personal gameplay style, it's just an economy tool.

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Peterlerock написал:

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leto2626 написал:

Personally I like arranging stashes etc, so the recipe is a nice side effect. I like picking stuff up, I don't like the clearspeed 'don't pick up anything anymore' meta.

I recently watched a streamer (I think it was "General Tso Chicken" or sth like that) blasting through something like his 90th to 100th shaped strand in a row that session, taking less than 1 minute each. Bamm! Next one! Bamm! Next one!
While some people find that amazing, to me it felt like the most terrifying thing I've ever seen. I don't want to play like this, this looked as tedious as assembly-line work.
Maybe I only get half as rich or half as many characterlevels/league, but if this is the prize?

One of my favorite maps is actually Waste Pool. A lot of dead ends and backtracking, but I like those little breaks into silence, when all you do is walk through these sewers.

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alg0801 написал:

However, this thread is about the Chaos recipe being a noob trap. It's unethical to continue to push noobs towards this action if you yourself know that it is a very inefficient way of generating currency.

Au contraire.

It's unethical to tell a player how he should play a game.
Let people find out for themself whether they want to use their tools or not.