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Yup, I agree. Nothing wrong with Item Rarity or even Item Quantity builds.
The only reason they're an issue is because the game is balanced around an economy. Which as you can see, limits builds. Hence, is probably something that should be looked at with scrutiny. Much of this game is balanced around the Economy. I feel like it negatively detracts from quite a significant portion of this game.
Yeah I totally Agree Quantity ... is OP ... if you stack 100-150% on tablets and get 6 people another 500% for currency ... and then add a propper juiced map ... with more quantity ... it becomes out of hand quickly...
Rarrity tho... it`s a joke .. as soon as you have like 100-150 you kinda reached the cap ... you can invest up to 643% like I did and you won`t see any diffrence !!
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Yup, I agree. Nothing wrong with Item Rarity or even Item Quantity builds.
The only reason they're an issue is because the game is balanced around an economy. Which as you can see, limits builds. Hence, is probably something that should be looked at with scrutiny. Much of this game is balanced around the Economy. I feel like it negatively detracts from quite a significant portion of this game.
Yeah I totally Agree Quantity ... is OP ... if you stack 100-150% on tablets and get 6 people another 500% for currency ... and then add a propper juiced map ... with more quantity ... it becomes out of hand quickly...
Rarrity tho... it`s a joke .. as soon as you have like 100-150 you kinda reached the cap ... you can invest up to 643% like I did and you won`t see any diffrence !!
All you're really saying with this is that it's basically mandatory at endgame to have at least 150 and only party play will benefit from anything over that... in an environment where party play is already highly rewarded.
There's just no upside to 98% of the playerbase to having the game balanced around MF being a thing, and if it stays it should have a lower point of diminishing returns as well as no impact on currency.
It should be at best a mech based around fishing for T0 uniques. Not just something that makes all drops better no matter what content you're running.
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СообщениеGkek#15816 янв. 2025 г., 19:26:29
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Solution:
Make Rarity the one stat you can bench-craft on any gear (that supports it).
This way in campaign you are incentivized to craft open affixes as rarity to boost your drops. This would communicate the value of this stat to new players early on so they have a way to 'solve' their bad rng by turning their trash gear into psuedo MF gear.
That or remove rarity from affixes and put them on runes only (with replaceable runes). Might have to nerf the Maxlotal shield with this solution (probably will have to anyways).
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Сообщениеfouquet#09936 янв. 2025 г., 19:30:56
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Yup, I agree. Nothing wrong with Item Rarity or even Item Quantity builds.
The only reason they're an issue is because the game is balanced around an economy. Which as you can see, limits builds. Hence, is probably something that should be looked at with scrutiny. Much of this game is balanced around the Economy. I feel like it negatively detracts from quite a significant portion of this game.
Yeah I totally Agree Quantity ... is OP ... if you stack 100-150% on tablets and get 6 people another 500% for currency ... and then add a propper juiced map ... with more quantity ... it becomes out of hand quickly...
Rarrity tho... it`s a joke .. as soon as you have like 100-150 you kinda reached the cap ... you can invest up to 643% like I did and you won`t see any diffrence !!
All you're really saying with this is that it's basically mandatory at endgame to have at least 150 and only party play will benefit from anything over that... in an environment where party play is already highly rewarded.
There's just no upside to 98% of the playerbase to having the game balanced around MF being a thing, and if it stays it should have a lower point of diminishing returns as well as no impact on currency.
It should be at best a mech based around fishing for T0 uniques. Not just something that makes all drops better no matter what content you're running.
it`s not mandatory ... it`s good to have like 100 - 150 .. you get better drops ... but mandatory hell no ... you could invest in a build with good clear speed and get more than an build with 150% and bad clear ...
it`s a matter of choice ...
obviously if you then have to much currency, which clearly you will never have because you want to be right and you see trough the lense of a horse ... so people like you are disregarded from society in general or used as a buffon (someone to laugh at) i`m not doing that i`m just saying what society does with people like you mabye it will help you improve ... then you can invest that currency in rarrity because there is not really anything to do with currency once you have items with 45% + reists and max life and max mana ... so you could then invest in rarrity ... because there is no more damage / survivability to add on your build ...
for the 98% of the people it would be beneficial to have rarrity because they could get their upgrades faster or to have excelent clear speed I do think clear speed is better than rarrity... you chose what you like for yoursel!!
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Solution:
Make Rarity the one stat you can bench-craft on any gear (that supports it).
This way in campaign you are incentivized to craft open affixes as rarity to boost your drops. This would communicate the value of this stat to new players early on so they have a way to 'solve' their bad rng by turning their trash gear into psuedo MF gear.
That or remove rarity from affixes and put them on runes only (with replaceable runes). Might have to nerf the Maxlotal shield with this solution (probably will have to anyways).
Waw this is even better ideea but you would still need to hard cap it because some builds can use more than others ... and you would have the cry babies that belive you are breaking the trade in ssf >:)
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it`s not mandatory ... it`s good to have like 100 - 150 .. you get better drops ... but mandatory hell no ... you could invest in a build with good clear speed and get more than an build with 150% and bad clear ...
it`s a matter of choice ...
obviously if you then have to much currency, which clearly you will never have because you want to be right and you see trough the lense of a horse ... so people like you are disregarded from society in general or used as a buffon (someone to laugh at) i`m not doing that i`m just saying what society does with people like you mabye it will help you improve ... then you can invest that currency in rarrity because there is not really anything to do with currency once you have items with 45% + reists and max life and max mana ... so you could then invest in rarrity ... because there is no more damage / survivability to add on your build ...
for the 98% of the people it would be beneficial to have rarrity because they could get their upgrades faster or to have excelent clear speed I do think clear speed is better than rarrity... you chose what you like for yoursel!!
Your reply exposes such a deep ignorance that I don't even want to fully engage with it.
You are fundamentally missing that the game is balanced with rarity in mind. The entire game can be balanced better without it if it was removed entirely or retargeted.
You also seem upset and have started calling me names in broken english or something. No need to get upset just because I predicted the argument you would make and you weren't able to come up with another one.
You're still basically saying "I like it, so it's ok" and then putting up stupid strawman arguments that ignore the bigger picture.
It's ironic that you want to argue about "rarrity" when you cannot even spell it correctly.
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СообщениеGkek#15816 янв. 2025 г., 19:43:46
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Your reply exposes such a deep ignorance that I don't even want to fully engage with it.
You are fundamentally missing that the game is balanced with rarity in mind. The entire game can be balanced better without it if it was removed entirely or retargeted.
You also seem upset and have started calling me names in broken english or something. No need to get upset just because I predicted the argument you would make and you weren't able to come up with another one.
You're still basically saying "I like it, so it's ok" and then putting up stupid strawman arguments that ignore the bigger picture.
It's ironic that you want to argue about "rarrity" when you cannot even spell it correctly.
I don't know why you even bothered responding. He didn't even read my post in the first place. Don't entertain him.
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СообщениеAkedomo#35736 янв. 2025 г., 19:45:55
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Its wild, all the actual issues that need to be addressed in EA and these cluckleheads are whining about rarity.
sheps brother ... they lack critical thinking , if zizaran is going to say the trade in ssf is broken they will be here complaining about it !!
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How many divs you wanna bet they'll be on the fourms whining about getting no drops if MF is removed?
What will they blame then I wonder
so you wana bet on 100% probability ? >:)
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I agree. There have already been tests performed with 0, 100, 200, 300+ rarity... once you get to 100-125 rarity the returns significantly decrease. Thats literally obtainable with 2 items. Next people will cry that they are forced into resistance on gear lol.
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Сообщениеarreat20#14316 янв. 2025 г., 19:48:05
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Its wild, all the actual issues that need to be addressed in EA and these cluckleheads are whining about rarity.
sheps brother ... they lack critical thinking , if zizaran is going to say the trade in ssf is broken they will be here complaining about it !!
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How many divs you wanna bet they'll be on the fourms whining about getting no drops if MF is removed?
What will they blame then I wonder
so you wana bet on 100% probability ? >:)
Nobody cares about Zizaran the SSF player.
You're surprised people are talking about rarity in a thread about rarity....
It's part of the game that people are giving feedback on. Doesn't make it the biggest issue or the only issue.
But yeah, everyone who disagrees with you is a "buffoon" and a "shep" lol
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СообщениеGkek#15816 янв. 2025 г., 19:49:25
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