I LIKE PASSIVE SKILL RESETS!

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RustyGalloway написал:

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CD23 написал:

Everybody loves skill resets.

Wut??

I sure hope you read beyond the first sentence...

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RustyGalloway написал:

Ideally there would be no respec options whatsoever. No orbs, and no respec rewards.

There are too many people giving in to this "respec please"-pressure and making up creative alternative solutions. To those of you who actually don't want respec options: stop doing that, you are hurting our case.

I want limited respecs to undo simple human error, I will never support the idea of absolutely no respecs period. People make mistakes, and in PoEs massive skill tree its very easy to accidentally misclick on the wrong thing and then you're screwed permanently without limited respecs.

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GhostlightX написал:

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sodium777 написал:

Now guys before you tar and feather me

Ha ha! Good luck with that. You will get tarred, feathered, insulted, sworn at, accused of whining (despite your constructive post), accused of trying to kill the game, and generally abused anyway. Welcome to the PoE community, a right friendly bunch....

Do NOT listen to this guy.

http://forums.runicgames.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=46251

He is one of the Ultimate whiners from TL2 forums who got their way and got respecs to TL2 and we all know what happened to that game afterwards...

Now he is trying to ruin PoE as well with ludicrous noob-demands like respecs and instanced loot, precisely the stuff we - hardcore ARPG fans to whom this game was made for - don't want.

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bhavv написал:

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RustyGalloway написал:

Ideally there would be no respec options whatsoever. No orbs, and no respec rewards.

There are too many people giving in to this "respec please"-pressure and making up creative alternative solutions. To those of you who actually don't want respec options: stop doing that, you are hurting our case.

I want limited respecs to undo simple human error, I will never support the idea of absolutely no respecs period. People make mistakes, and in PoEs massive skill tree its very easy to accidentally misclick on the wrong thing and then you're screwed permanently without limited respecs.

I support the system as it is. It's perfect for making few errors here and there, but if you want to "change your build", you need to roll a new char, as it should be.

The current skill reset system adds an extra challenge to the game for me. I like it as it is. I have to carefully plan my character before I ever play him.

Respec in PoE is absolutely perfect. You earn enough respec points from quest to tweak your build if you messed up a bit. If you messed up big time, there's always Orb of Regrets. It will be costly, or you simply reroll.

Don't understand why people have problem with it. PoE doesn't need full respec :/

Oh and here's another idea I just got that I like ...

Trade in all the EXP gain for your last level up plus all the progress towards your current level for 1 respec point, plus you lose a level and your last skill pick. You regain the last skill point when you reacquire your lost level.

So in more casual friendly terms -

Lose all XP towards your next level, and lose all XP for the last level you gained, lose a level and the last skill you picked. Gain 1 respec point, and regain the skill point you lost when you gain the level back.

Usable once every hour so you can't just spam level resets.

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GhostlightX написал:

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Or you experiment, learn something about the game mechanics, understand that it's also about gear and skill gems, and actually be a better player because of it = Ultimate Freedom! No longer are you tied to ANYONE'S builds but your own.

Except that the effect no respec is having is to make people scared of making a serious mistake. Net result....they are copying "pro" builds religiously. We are, ironically, getting LESS build variation as a result. This is what happens when you cannot experiment with your build, or rather you can but the price of a failed experiment is extremely costly. People just copy one that is proven to work and safe.

Good - then perhaps people will at least attempt to learn what they are doing before jumping into this game. Copying another build is a choice just like learning and adapting to the game rather than expecting the game to adapt to you.

As I said before (if you bothered to read it)

This is a Niche game, deliberately developed for Niche players. NOT for the mass market. Love it or leave it. Choice.

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Akiviri написал:

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GhostlightX написал:

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Or you experiment, learn something about the game mechanics, understand that it's also about gear and skill gems, and actually be a better player because of it = Ultimate Freedom! No longer are you tied to ANYONE'S builds but your own.

Except that the effect no respec is having is to make people scared of making a serious mistake. Net result....they are copying "pro" builds religiously. We are, ironically, getting LESS build variation as a result. This is what happens when you cannot experiment with your build, or rather you can but the price of a failed experiment is extremely costly. People just copy one that is proven to work and safe.

Good - then perhaps people will at least attempt to learn what they are doing before jumping into this game. Copying another build is a choice just like learning and adapting to the game rather than expecting the game to adapt to you.

As I said before (if you bothered to read it)

This is a Niche game, deliberately developed for Niche players. NOT for the mass market. Love it or leave it. Choice.

Couldn't have said it better.

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bhavv написал:

People make mistakes, and in PoEs massive skill tree its very easy to accidentally misclick on the wrong thing and then you're screwed permanently without limited respecs.

You don't need respec options to prevent misclicks. Just add in a pop-up box that says "are you sure?" "yes", "no" when you click on a new skill.