How we can make divination cards farmable and don't hurm economy.

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Hughs написал:

So the best thing to actually try to work here, is that the divination card drops MATCH the unique drops for EACH different unique.

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Docbp87 написал:

Wait you got zero cards in a whopping ten runs? That's nothing... People spend 12+ hours farming certain zones and still get ZERO cards. Try farming Voll for Brittle Emperors... You will go through HUNDREDS of runs without getting a card. The problem is that buffing the droprates of cards then decreases the value of the item (ie. if you got an Offering card every ~10 runs in merciless Harvest, killing Shav, then Shavronne's Wrappings would basically be worth NOTHING)... Also, you should be farming Core Shav or at least Scriptorium Shav for cards (Scriptorium Shav seems to have a pretty high drop rate for her cards, The Aesthete and The Offering). I feel like I get an Aesthete on 1 in 3 runs, and an Offering card in 1 in 10-15 runs.

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j33bus написал:

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Hughs написал:

So the best thing to actually try to work here, is that the divination card drops MATCH the unique drops for EACH different unique.

Well according to GGG div cards for uniques actually more than match the drop rate, but probability being the way it is you can't measure that when trying to get one of anything. The other problem is the OP is trying to push for an item mod that lets people farm set of the calling from the harvest in an hour or two.

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Dr1MaR написал:

There are not intended to be farmable

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Hughs написал:

EDIT 1: That's how you transform a 10.000 runs for The Brittle Emperor (yes, i did 10.000 runs without getting a single divination card), in 5.000 or less according to the % chance.

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goetzjam написал:

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Hughs написал:

EDIT 1: That's how you transform a 10.000 runs for The Brittle Emperor (yes, i did 10.000 runs without getting a single divination card), in 5.000 or less according to the % chance.

The only way you did 10,000 runs is by not actually killing voll, which is the only place where they can drop from.

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Dr1MaR написал:

There are not intended to be farmable

I do believe they are intended to be farmable... HOWEVER... drop rates are balanced around trade, not a single person.

This is why I think PT got it right with an auction house solely for those (but hey, reddit downboats him). Preferably with base prices so people can just click lower cards into it. Ofc one should still be able to trade them normally. I suppose people might want to barter on expensive ones.

I would finish so many card sets if this existed, instead they just sit there because I rather wait to get lucky than to waste my time going back and forth getting cards from several people (and just think of the afk/offline/busy/etc) just to complete an average value set or/and gamble set (this problem really only does not affect the higher value sets or the situation when you only need one more and it isnt from a low value set)


EDIT: dont get me wrong, Id like them to be truly single player farmable.
But, considering the balance and how much GGG cares about the economy, I dont see it happen.

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Hughs написал:

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j33bus написал:

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Hughs написал:

So the best thing to actually try to work here, is that the divination card drops MATCH the unique drops for EACH different unique.

Well according to GGG div cards for uniques actually more than match the drop rate, but probability being the way it is you can't measure that when trying to get one of anything. The other problem is the OP is trying to push for an item mod that lets people farm set of the calling from the harvest in an hour or two.

"According to GGG" well maybe they are wrong, but i did a mistake there, the divination card drop DOES NOT NEED TO MATCH the unique drop, because that would be very unfortunate (its like saying i rather get the unique than the divination card that gives me the unique at the same rate).

To be clear, the divination card drops should be a percentage better and improved as the unique % chance to drop, thats how you help the game without breaking it, and thats how you get an equal chance for both uniques and divination cards.

EDIT 1: That's how you transform a 10.000 runs for The Brittle Emperor (yes, i did 10.000 runs without getting a single divination card), in 5.000 or less according to the % chance.

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Hughs написал:

Guys, your fight is useless here. This thread and this forum is intended to make valuable advices and suggestions about the game so it can be improved! It's not about what you guys prefer or want the game to be. If you all read well, when the thread started, there IS a suggestion and a way to improve how divination card drop works. And in some point, the thread went to hell with all these arguments about "a hard game" or a "casual game".

Please, try to read better and try to HELP! There is an obvious problem with what divination cards intented to be when GGG announced them, and what they have become in the present. All i know is this: there is an actual problem when i can a get (for example) a Divination Distillate Flask running random maps, but if you try to get it "easier" by farming The Drunken Aristocrat, you are going to have a better chance of obtain the flask itself randomly.

So the best thing to actually try to work here, is that the divination card drops MATCH the unique drops for EACH different unique.